Sarracenia identification questions

Jonathan

Jonathan

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So I am looking at the order form for Seeds Carnivores and More and I see this

Sarracenia flava var. maxima 40cm, Green Swamp N.C
ex Jonathan Newman

What does the "ex Jonathan Newman" name mean under the description of the plant?

What does the "PW F 27" mean? I've seen these letters and numbers commonly on lists.
Sarracenia flava var. maxima 40 cm Green Swamp North Carolina PW F 27
 
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"ex" means as much as "from the collection of" or "obtained from" followed by the name of the person.
"PW F 27" is a clone number: "PW" are the initials of an English grower (Phil W.), "F" means S.flava, "27" is the 27th flava clone in his collection. Many growers with large collections and nurseries use this or a similar way to tag their plants. However, as soon as another growers gets hold of such a plant he might give it a new number. This can get confusing, but it is better than nothing. Maybe check out this deconfusifier.
It is kind of important to keep track of where your plants came from, but I'm not sure if private names should pop up on public/online lists.
 
As a general rule I keep a plant that already had a code. I also have my own code systems for different groups of plants. In the end as long as it has 5-7 letters or numbers it shouldn’t get mixed up with anyone else’s codes and is still easier to write then a full name and location. If a grower is just using something like F21, I will add the initial of the grow first. So all my Mike King plants are MKF21 or MKA58. Then when I get another another F21 it’s not confusing.
 
Hi all,
Just bought one of these at a local nursery. The label is '' Sarracenia ''. What kind of sarracenia do you think it is ? Thanks in advance.
 

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It appears to be some kind of leucophylla. Is there a product tag, as in what nursery the plant was grown from? Sometimes if you go to their website they will give more details.
 
Kurblius said:
It appears to be some kind of leucophylla. Is there a product tag, as in what nursery the plant was grown from? Sometimes if you go to their website they will give more details.
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Hi, there is just a plain price tag, without producer name. Thank you and have a nice day.
 
Without labels, it's sooo difficult to identify, especially when not fully mature, and without flower. even then, I wouldn't have the skills to help.
 
Yes, unfortunately, no hope then... I did hesitate to buy at first sigh because of no ID on plant, but the selling price is quite not expensive, no shipping fees (ha ha) so I came back the following day to buy one pot !!! :cool:
 
Maybe some purpurea hybrid? Maybe michelliana? It's just that they are still so young, basically seedlings. But they are probably mass produced.
 
Hi,
Are Sarracenia flava var. artropropurea (Waccamaw) (Dwarfs) just another term for juvenile plants? or are they a different cultivar altogether than S.flava var. artropupurea (Waccamaw)?
 
must have been some selfed seedlings, or an outcross that highly resembled the parent plant?

Thats my best guess.

Waccawmaw is Waccawmaw, plain and simple. If you plan on getting one, amke sure it comes from a reputable seller, and if the price sounds too good, do some more digging to verify it truely is what you want.
 
Carson Hardy said:
must have been some selfed seedlings, or an outcross that highly resembled the parent plant?

Thats my best guess.

Waccawmaw is Waccawmaw, plain and simple. If you plan on getting one, amke sure it comes from a reputable seller, and if the price sounds too good, do some more digging to verify it truely is what you want.
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I already got a few ;) and have been confirmed to be the real deal. I got them last year.
 
yep, Waccamaw is Waccamaw. Nothing else is Waccamaw.

But I am wondering if it's not a small division they called dwarf because it was small? sometimes divisions of the mother plant can be very small, seedling size. I usually don't sell them until they reach a decent size, but it does happen on regular basis that a very large plant produce division that are tiny, yet it's still the real thing. It will just take some time to grow and color up. Might be what they called dwarf.
 
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